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Old February 27th, 2018
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I apologize for not specifying earlier that the version with a direct-wire ZW5 SmartCord is available only from authorized Escort installers.

There is currently not an auto-shut off feature. You must double press the detector's mute button to temporarily disable shifting. We are looking into adding an auto-shutoff feature to ZW5.
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I apologize for not specifying earlier that the version with a direct-wire ZW5 SmartCord is available only from authorized Escort installers.
What would be the reason for not being able purchase from ESCORT a direct wire ZW5 Smartcord with the ZW5, especially since there are not any Shifters on the market that I am aware of that are not completely direct wired and the ZW5 controller already requires a separate direct wire connection? Also, the ZR5 (which is overall harder to wire as it requires a firewall pass-through) comes with a direct wire connection (albeit not a seperate Smartcord)?

The unavailability of a direct wire Smartcord (unless one goes through an approved installer) would seem to limit the ZW5 market substantially as many (if not most) with shifters won't want a cord with an inline module dangling in clear site in their car. Maybe it's just me, but it would seem to defeat much of the reason of getting easy install ZW5s (vs ZR5s), unless I'm misunderstanding something (which could be the case since there is limited data currently on these new items).
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Old March 1st, 2018
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We are offering ZW5 with a direct wire, you just need to get it from an authorized installer. Why? Because installing the direct wire is more complicated than installing the coiled cord version. Installing the direct wire typically involves disassembling your dashboard which is something many will not attempt and will instead have a professional install it.
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Why would you have to take apart your dashboard to put in a direct wire? Would it not be powered the same way as you install other devices. Something smells really bad here....almost like you guys are hiding something. I really want to integrate this with my new Max360C, but I guess I am going to have to buy my Shifters/jammers from your competitor. How can you guys look to sell these in a month, but yet you do not have answers. You must have had Beta testers for these that asked the same questions. if not, you guys need better beta testers. really weird..
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Old March 4th, 2018
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Why would you have to take apart your dashboard to put in a direct wire? Would it not be powered the same way as you install other devices. Something smells really bad here....almost like you guys are hiding something. I really want to integrate this with my new Max360C, but I guess I am going to have to buy my Shifters/jammers from your competitor. How can you guys look to sell these in a month, but yet you do not have answers. You must have had Beta testers for these that asked the same questions. if not, you guys need better beta testers. really weird..
I had the same idea of integrating ZW5 with my 360c, and then moving my current LI shifters to the rear. This direct wire cord revelation puts a monkey wrench into that idea.

After seeing a picture of the ZW5 SmartCord it appears the InLine Module built into it may be the issue, as it must be accessible to re-pair the wireless signal if pairing should be lost? This is why I asked for a photo of the direct wire ZW5 Smartcord to see if it was assembled just like the regular portable one. If this is the issue, my suggestion to ESCORT would be to remove the InLine Module from the direct wire cord and place it in a small separate box that can be velcroed to/near the interior fuse box and direct wired to it so that the re-pair button is always accessible. Then, the standard direct wire phone cord (with snap connectors at each end) can be used to attach that pre-12 volt wired module to the detector. This would avoid the whole dash teardown issue and would be no harder to wire than any other shifters (easier in fact since there is no firewall pass-through from the heads).

I'm just speculating here so ESCORT will have to clarify. Having to buy a ZW5 with the portable ZW5 SmartCord, and then having to pay for a second Direct Wire ZW5 Smart cord from a separate vendor and having its pairing button be directly part of the hidden cord would be a non-starter for me (and I think to most other potential buyers) as I can't imagine having a corded shifter unit plugged into my cigarette lighter all the time, nor can I see tearing apart my dash to access the re-pairing button each time pairing is lost. Looking for some answers here too . .
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Old March 12th, 2018
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The ZW5 Direct Wire SmartCord is the same as the Direct Wire SmartCord. You do not need to access the inline module. You will need to connect the direct wire to a switched 12V source and route the cable to your detector which, in many applications, involves disassembling your dash and an A-pillar.

You purchase the ZW5 with the cord that you want included. We offer the coiled cord version direct from our website. Our authorized installers offer the direct wire version.
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Old March 12th, 2018
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We are offering ZW5 with a direct wire, you just need to get it from an authorized installer. Why? Because installing the direct wire is more complicated than installing the coiled cord version. Installing the direct wire typically involves disassembling your dashboard which is something many will not attempt and will instead have a professional install it.
Is it more difficult than hardwiring a radar detector using a traditional Directwire Smartcord? Escort has sold several different directwire cords for years. What's more complicated about direct wiring a ZW5 directwire cord over a traditional directwire cord? Should we expect Escort's other directwire cords to soon be sold only through authorized installers as well?
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ZW5 uses its own proprietary wireless communication protocol. It is not bluetooth or Wi-Fi. The ZW5 SmartCord and interface are paired at the factory. You would only need to pair a cord with the interface if you replaced the cord. A smartphone is not needed to use ZW5.

If you want the sensors to shift, then there are no settings to change on your detector. Simply plug in the ZW5 SmartCord. If you want the sensors to receive-only and not shift then you will need to change this setting on your detector.

ZW5 is not compatible with SmartCord Live cords.
ZW5 is compatible with Escort Live through Escort Live-ready detectors (detectors with built-in bluetooth). All laser alerts received by ZW5 are sent to Escort Live.

1. What parameters, if any, can be controlled via RD Preferences (other than jam, receive, off)?
The available settings are: Off, Shift, Receive-only

2. What parameters, if any, can be controlled via EL?
"Off, Shift, and Receive-only" can be controlled in the detector's preferences menu which is also available through Escort Live

3. Is the jam time pre-set (to how many seconds) or controllable?
Not currently. We are looking into adding this via a firmware update (ZW5 is updatable via USB). Double press the detector's MUTE button when receiving a laser alert to temporarily disable shifting and put the sensors in "receive-only" mode. After 30 seconds the laser sensors automatically go back into "shifting" mode.

4. What is displayed on the RD screen and voice alert (eg. shift/ receive only/off)?
"(F) Laser SHIFTING" is displayed and "Front laser shifting" is announced when the sensors are set to shifting.
"(F) Laser" is displayed and "Front laser alert" is announced when the sensors are set to receive-only
. The sensors will not alert when they are turned off.
i'm trying to become more familiar with these since we sell them. when you made this comment "If you want the sensors to shift, then there are no settings to change on your detector. Simply plug in the ZW5 SmartCord. If you want the sensors to receive-only and not shift then you will need to change this setting on your detector" do you mean while you are driving down the road, and a person gets hit, they need to do the above statement ? sorry for the clarification question.
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Is it more difficult than hardwiring a radar detector using a traditional Directwire Smartcord?
It is the same.

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Should we expect Escort's other directwire cords to soon be sold only through authorized installers as well?
That's a great idea, thanks!

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i'm trying to become more familiar with these since we sell them. when you made this comment "If you want the sensors to shift, then there are no settings to change on your detector. Simply plug in the ZW5 SmartCord. If you want the sensors to receive-only and not shift then you will need to change this setting on your detector" do you mean while you are driving down the road, and a person gets hit, they need to do the above statement ? sorry for the clarification question.
I meant if they want to shifters to not shift then they will need to change the "shifters" setting in the detector to "receive-only" mode. They shift by default.

With the shifters enabled, while driving and you receive a laser alert, you can temporarily disable shifting by double tapping the mute button. After 30 seconds the shifters will automatically be set to shift again.
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Old March 13th, 2018
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What would be the benefit of taking the option away from your customers of doing the install themselves? Many of us would rather go this route and it's not a big deal for people to do this install. If people get tripped up, they can look at a tutorial, ask on the forums, or stop by any local installer. Many many manufacturers offer hardwire cables for sale and it's worked well this whole time. Is there something I'm missing?

I understand that Escort is still only willing to sell the Max Ci through local distributors too, for example, though customers can still go and purchase products through a local distributor and do the install themselves. They'll get 1 year of warranty instead of 3, sure, but it's still an option. Is the goal here to support your distributors and drive extra business through them? Are you wanting to have them offer customer service with wiring and installation instead of you?

Since we're talking about the ZW5, for someone who purchases it online and is going to be doing the install themselves (a simpler install is one of the primary appeals of the ZW5), it wouldn't be a big step at all to hardwire a radar detector as part of the process and so I don't see why you're withholding the necessary cabling from your customers. Something just isn't adding up here.

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