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Old April 10th, 2017
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Default OK, so here's the problem

EL runs in the background at all times and keeps location services on continuously, even when the detector is not connected. According to Android OS's battery reporting, it's the largest battery drain on the phone by a factor of three, (EL is consistently at 11-15%, the next largest battery drain is at 4%!) and I have noticed my battery draining much faster since installing EL. It used to last all day - about 16 hours - now I'm needing to plug in after about 8-10 hours. So I need to quit the EL app or turn off location services (not really an option) whenever I get out of my car and open it back up again when I get back in.

My suggestion is to allow EL to stop using location services when the RD is not connected, restart using it when the RD connects.

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Old April 20th, 2017
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I haven't used EL in awhile but this seems to be an ongoing problem. I have a dedicated tablet in my car and I noticed that EL would drain the battery like crazy when I used it. I would even force stop EL and somehow it would still manage to drain. Hell, using the app greenify wouldn't work. This app is written so poorly. Just look at the playstore comments and ratings.
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Old April 20th, 2017
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Default 23% battery usage!

Here's a screenshot of my battery stats on the phone. This screenshot was taken about 5 minutes AFTER the app had been completely shut down, dismissed in 'recent screens' and the phone had been restarted. The second screenshot shows EL is not running. (it has more than one process and/or service active when it's running.)

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Notice the time on the phone. It's 9:07 am. The phone was unplugged with a full charge at about 7:30 am when I left for work. It was powered off overnight, so it had a fresh startup when I unplugged it. There's only 18% battery left...It drained my phone's battery in less than 2 hours!

Now to be fair, it usually doesn't pull 23%, but even it's usual 10-12% is too high, especially when the radar detector is not connected.

Escort, please fix this! The battery drain is too high during normal usage (driving with the RD connected), and IMO, EL should terminate when the RD is not connected. There's no reason at all for it to be looking for radar threats all day while I'm sitting at work!

The argument I've heard for keeping it running all the time is that people use it without an RD.

During setup, EL asks if you have a radar detector, so it knows! I have coding experience, so I have an idea of how this stuff works. If it knows that you have an RD, it can be coded to shut itself down when the RD disconnects! C'mon, It can't be that difficult. Other apps listen in the background for a BT connection without draining the battery.

There is no excuse for the app's behavior, not in this day and age of "smart" things. Heck, even for those using it without an RD, it could be programmed to only become active when it sees 20mph movement by the GPS! Make it smart!

FWIW, I'm disappointed. My last RD needed a smart cord to use EL, and I never saw enough value to purchase one. My new RD has bluetooth built in (a feature that swayed me towards replacing my old one) and I was really looking forward to using EL.

But I've come to find out that EL is unusable on a daily basis as it is, so part of me feels like I wasted my money on the upgrade.

The other reason for the upgrade was the mount on the Max was really bad. At least this new mount is solid.

So, My experience with Escort so far is this: My dad owned them, so reputation drew me towards the brand when I purchased my first radar detector - the Max. I was sorely disappointed with the Max because of the mount. So I feel like I had no choice but to spend ANOTHER $500 to get away from that flawed design, and now on my 2nd radar detector I find that one of its main features is flawed. We're 0 for 2 so far, and I have a bad taste in my mouth. Please fix this.

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Old April 21st, 2017
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I feel that was harsh...sorry. I know this stuff isn't easy. I just hope you get it fixed.

I found what might be a fix for me, and thought I would share it for anyone else who's having problems. Someone in another thread mentioned a setting in EL's app settings called 'Background Updates". I turned it off and it appears to completely close the app when I hit the home button. The location indicator turns off and battery usage drops to 1%. We'll see how it does over the next few days. I'll let you all know.

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So give this a try. Escort, what exactly does that setting do?
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Old April 21st, 2017
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First, I am the first to admit that EL is sorely missing on some basic common sense changes. No matter how much or how long we ask for them they get ignored or get told "we're looking into it.

That said, considering you have "code" writing experience you should have an advanced understanding of how the phone works. If you run "any" app that requires GPS location you will drain your battery quickly.

To remedy this they created this thing called a "USB charging cord". Many modern cars even have 12v outlets and some even have USB outlets so you can plug that cord in.

If while in your car you simply plug your phone in you will always have a topped off phone and prevent the battery drain.
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Old April 21st, 2017
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First, I am the first to admit that EL is sorely missing on some basic common sense changes. No matter how much or how long we ask for them they get ignored or get told "we're looking into it.

That said, considering you have "code" writing experience you should have an advanced understanding of how the phone works. If you run "any" app that requires GPS location you will drain your battery quickly.

To remedy this they created this thing called a "USB charging cord". Many modern cars even have 12v outlets and some even have USB outlets so you can plug that cord in.

If while in your car you simply plug your phone in you will always have a topped off phone and prevent the battery drain.
Just let EL connect in the background without even having the app fully open. If I open the app I notice the battery drain, if I keep the app closed and just let it pull from the server 'by-passing' the app it has minimal effect on the battery. I will have access to PSL and alert data that is sent directly to the RD. It will report all Ka & L alerts as well. No need to have it fully open, not even in the background.
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Just let EL connect in the background without even having the app fully open. If I open the app I notice the battery drain, if I keep the app closed and just let it pull from the server 'by-passing' the app it has minimal effect on the battery. I will have access to PSL and alert data that is sent directly to the RD. It will report all Ka & L alerts as well. No need to have it fully open, not even in the background.
How do you have it "fully open in the background"?
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How do you have it "fully open in the background"?
Running iOS 10 there are 3 choices...

1) Press the Icon and open the app and run it in the foreground on screen.

2) Press the Icon and open the app and then open another App like Waze and run that in foreground and EL in the background

3) Force close EL - get in your car - let the BT connect to your RD and a few seconds later it will show the PSL data or '--' on the display to let you know you are connected to their servers for alerts without the app needing to be open.

#3 ONLY will only work with the RD off, force close the app, then start the RD. No need to press the app to open.
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Old April 21st, 2017
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That said, considering you have "code" writing experience you should have an advanced understanding of how the phone works. If you run "any" app that requires GPS location you will drain your battery quickly.
Yes, location services will add additional battery drain. However, Google maps can do it without draining my battery, as can other location aware apps. The fact that EL is using location services doesn't give it a pass for high battery drain.

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To remedy this they created this thing called a "USB charging cord". Many modern cars even have 12v outlets and some even have USB outlets so you can plug that cord in.
Being snarky doesn't add anything to this conversation.

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If while in your car you simply plug your phone in you will always have a topped off phone and prevent the battery drain.
You're missing the point. I shouldn't 'have' to plug my phone in. The problem at hand is the battery drain, not my phone usage habits. I'd like to see it solved, so I'm contributing.

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Just let EL connect in the background without even having the app fully open.
The problem was that even with the app closed I was getting a high battery drain. So allowing the app to run in the background meant yes, it would connect, but my battery would be gone in about 4 hours from a full charge. I was left with no choice but to exit the app entirely and sometimes even kill it in app management each time I got out of my car, and then open it back up again every time I got back in my car. Got old really fast!

That all said, with 'background alerts' turned off, EL behaves as I would expect it to, with negligible battery drain. The app goes away when I hit the home button, no battery drain, and it flawlessly connected to my RD every time today...incidentally much quicker than it used to (it used to be flaky and slow about connecting) and displayed PSL data without me having to touch the phone or open the app.

Now, I assume with background alerts turned off, I will not receive any of the 'crowdsourced' alerts - the live alerts provided by the EL app - they won't be displayed on my detector unless the app is open in the foreground...? Yellowtang, you mentioned it still passes data through. I understand there's some fundamental differences between the Android and iOS versions. It's fair to assume that means there may also be behavioral differences between the two versions.

I had [--] displayed and PSL data on the detector when I drove, with the app in the background. From your description, that means I should also receive live alerts on my detector. I'll have to go drive by one to see if it's passing it through. I'll check back with an update on that after the weekend.

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Old April 21st, 2017
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lol I just imagined myself racing all over the city trying to catch a live radar alert ....just so I can get caught doing so on the very police radar I'm chasing! The irony.

Isn't this what Escort's Speeding ticket guarantee was meant to be used for?
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