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Old September 6th, 2017
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new here. What's IVT? no I know why my 9500ix would be weird on some trips.


& I also had a 8500. Which was super loud. Worst thing about 9500ix was that Ka band was quiet. My max360 hasn't had much road use so still waiting for the sounds


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IVT filtering is Escort's technology to reduce false alerts caused by In Vehicle Technology such as Blind-side monitoring (BSM) and Collision Avoidance Systems (CAS) that are becoming more and more prevalent in modern vehicles.
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Old October 9th, 2017
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I retired my passport 8500 a couple of weeks ago and picked up the IX. So far I have been very pleased with the detector, much quieter than the 8500. One of my main reasons for the new detector is that IVT was constantly setting off my 8500 ( I live in the Chicago suburbs and have a daily 1 hr expressway commute to work ).

Today I got stuck behind an Acura MDX. My IX K band indicator went off for the entirety of the trip - very frustrating. I have to most recent downloads from Escort - any idea when they will update to block out the K band used in the Acura ?

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I was about to post same question after an earlier discussion with a forum smartass. From the responses you see, it is clear that the IX, as good as it is, does not protect against IVT - Acura, Buicks and KIAs seem to be most offending. It is annoying, but I don't believe any RD has a solution yet. Another company advertises a solution - I don't own one, so I can't say.

That said, based on my driving experience, it is actually relative easy to detect IVT from police radar for those of us who drive just a tad above the limit. Usually it is K band, it stays on constantly infront of me, so based on traffic volume I proceed, looking for the Acura/Buick/Kia - and LEO in the environment. When detected, I approach cautiously. If it's IVT, I will get max the IX response. Problem solved. I repeat for every IVT, but usually, repeat is not necessary. If is LEO, it usually is Ka where I live - problem solved for me.

One very important point here is that in these situations, I am not driving more that 10 mph above the limit - in MD/VA, that is not an issue.

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Yes most of the time the ramp up is completely different. IVT usually looks and sounds like an I/O whereas a real K band usually has a decent ramp up and you can almost sense "waves" in the alert. Had a real K yesterday that I don't see too much but the ramp up clued me in.

I run spec mode which lets me see a good signal strength indicator plus the frequency.

Also on IVT I've noticed the frequency changes every few seconds whereas a legitimate K usually doesn't.
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Old October 10th, 2017
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If ESCORT iX did not have an IVT Filter then you would be receiving many more alerts to other vehicles radar systems.

The ESCORT iX's receiver is not digital like a Max 360, so it's IVT Filter is not as effective. Nobody can filter out 100% of these systems out without also ignoring police radar but if you want the best IVT Filtering available then look no further than the Max 360. It also has arrows for alert direction
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Old October 10th, 2017
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I was about to post same question after an earlier discussion with a forum smartass. From the responses you see, it is clear that the IX, as good as it is, does not protect against IVT - Acura, Buicks and KIAs seem to be most offending. It is annoying, but I don't believe any RD has a solution yet. Another company advertises a solution - I don't own one, so I can't say.

That said, based on my driving experience, it is actually relative easy to detect IVT from police radar for those of us who drive just a tad above the limit. Usually it is K band, it stays on constantly infront of me, so based on traffic volume I proceed, looking for the Acura/Buick/Kia - and LEO in the environment. When detected, I approach cautiously. If it's IVT, I will get max the IX response. Problem solved. I repeat for every IVT, but usually, repeat is not necessary. If is LEO, it usually is Ka where I live - problem solved for me.

One very important point here is that in these situations, I am not driving more that 10 mph above the limit - in MD/VA, that is not an issue.
In your post above you said, "does not protect against IVT". You might be confused, IVT is the name of Escort's filtering system/software. It is not something you need protected from.

The new vehicle safety systems are known as BSM and CAS. The Escort IX detector with IVT filtering does a much better job on K band false alerts compared to the 9500IX or the 8500 models. Nothing is perfect and some vehicles still punch through as a false alert. No detector maker right now has solved this problem completely and I doubt anyone ever will.
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In your post above you said, "does not protect against IVT". You might be confused, IVT is the name of Escort's filtering system/software. It is not something you need protected from.

The new vehicle safety systems are known as BSM and CAS. The Escort IX detector with IVT filtering does a much better job on K band false alerts compared to the 9500IX or the 8500 models. Nothing is perfect and some vehicles still punch through as a false alert. No detector maker right now has solved this problem completely and I doubt anyone ever will.
You are correct. Thanks for the precise language - I'm still learning.
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Old October 17th, 2017
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If ESCORT iX did not have an IVT Filter then you would be receiving many more alerts to other vehicles radar systems.
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Thanks for making that clear. I've learnt more about IVT filtering in this one post than I have read anywhere else.
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Old January 11th, 2018
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I wanted to provide an update. I sent the following to Escort on Monday:

I have had an Escort iX for about 6 months now. Unfortunately there are many Acura's here in the Chicagoland area and my radar detector goes off constantly due to IVT ( I have an hour morning commute, a MDX was behind me on the tollway this morning so my radar was going off for the entire trip )

I posted my frustration on the escort radar forum last year and in October Escort replied "The ESCORT iX's receiver is not digital like a Max 360, so it's IVT Filter is not as effective"

Will the Max 360 filter out Honda / Acura IVT ? Is there any plan for a software update for the iX that will help with this ? I have been an Escort user since 2006 ( Solo / 8500 / iX ) and I am at the point where I am either going to switch brands or give up on using a radar detector all together if no solution exists.


And received the following response:

There should be an update to the firmware on an Escort IX coming soon that would add more into the IVT filter. Unfortunately, I do not have an ETA for that update.

The Max360 already has the update with the newest IVT filter so yes, at this time, the 360 filter is better.


The good news is they are working on addressing the issue, I just wish we had an ETA as to when.

Any idea how owners would be notified when the firmware update is available ( other than checking this forum ) ?

Thanks,

Nick
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I wanted to provide an update. I sent the following to Escort on Monday:

I have had an Escort iX for about 6 months now. Unfortunately there are many Acura's here in the Chicagoland area and my radar detector goes off constantly due to IVT ( I have an hour morning commute, a MDX was behind me on the tollway this morning so my radar was going off for the entire trip )

I posted my frustration on the escort radar forum last year and in October Escort replied "The ESCORT iX's receiver is not digital like a Max 360, so it's IVT Filter is not as effective"

Will the Max 360 filter out Honda / Acura IVT ? Is there any plan for a software update for the iX that will help with this ? I have been an Escort user since 2006 ( Solo / 8500 / iX ) and I am at the point where I am either going to switch brands or give up on using a radar detector all together if no solution exists.


And received the following response:

There should be an update to the firmware on an Escort IX coming soon that would add more into the IVT filter. Unfortunately, I do not have an ETA for that update.

The Max360 already has the update with the newest IVT filter so yes, at this time, the 360 filter is better.


The good news is they are working on addressing the issue, I just wish we had an ETA as to when.

Any idea how owners would be notified when the firmware update is available ( other than checking this forum ) ?

Thanks,

Nick

Several things, the Acura vehicles are by far the worst polluting vehicles on the road and EVERY detector company is having issues filtering them out. If you check other radar forums you will see this is true. Some other brands have a combination of filtering and letting you dial down the K band sensitivity. This makes for a very quiet detector but will also affect the K band range of real police radar. You will have to decide what you are willing to risk I guess for a quiet ride.

Escorts best at filtering are the Max line with the most up to date IVT filtering. The new Max 360c has been getting great reviews on how quiet it is for CAS and BSM false alerts. This update is supposed to also be out soon for the Max and MaxII.

The Escort IX is not an all digital detector so it will not have quite as good of filtering as the Max line of detectors. That does not mean Escort will not keep working on the IX but it will always be one step behind the Max. This is a disappointment for me because I expected more from the IX. Who knows, to make some people happy Escort might have to resort to K band segmenting and suppression of K band performance for less false alerts. Tough nut to crack for sure.
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