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Old November 30th, 2011
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I think you're confusing features here a bit.

You asked earlier if the Verizon iPhone4 (VIP4) allows Bluetooth (BT) to car and Live at the same time, and the answer to that question is YES. That's a hardware issue determined by Apple, not Escort or Verizon.

Now you're asking if the VIP4 allows simultaneous BT "communication," which is the same thing as I addressed above, UNLESS you mean to ask if you can run Live (i.e. data from the internet) while on a voice call, the answer to which is NO. That's an issue of Verizon's network, not Apple or Escort.

the AT&T iP4 can do simultaneous voice and data, as can all older iPhone models on the AT&T network.

What that means, then, is that if you're running Live while on a call, Alerts will not come through. The app should keep running in the background, I'm pretty sure, it just will not update until you end the call and the data service can resume.

The VIP4 is a less than ideal companion to EscortLive to be sure, but Live is not rendered totally useless unless you're calling and talking throughout your drive, which I know some people do!

If that's the case, you could consider a workaround like a Skype #, the calls through which take place over the data service and can run simultaneously with the Live app. It's an extra layer of hassle and expense (albeit small), and you'll just have to decide if it's worthwhile to you.

My opinion would be to buy your way out of the Verizon contract, sell the iP4, and signup with AT&T or Sprint! I'm not in love with ATT at all, but when I found out the VIP4 couldn't data/call at the same time, THAT was a non-starter for me, regardless of Live; I use the capability to access the net all the time while on calls.
Well put.
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Thanks for the excellent follow up Chaad. Chaad is correct that the app will continue to function without data you will just not receive new Live alerts, nor upload any, while you are on the phone if your provider does not allow voice and data.

The Escort Live app is certainly not vaporware. I have personally used it on an iPhone4. It has also been shown to the public and used by many at various shows and events, such as the Car And Driver 10 Best event.
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Just curious, since the iPhone/Android and the radar detector are essentially "hardwired" together via the Live! power connector, why did Escort opt for Bluetooth?
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You're welcome.

The only other thing that should probably be considered in all this connectivity chatter is that if someone is also pairing their iPhone (any model) to a car's audio system via BT along with Live, then they'll need to be running iOS4 or higher.

I'm pretty sure that before iOS4, multiple simultaneous BT connections were not possible.

Obviously all iP4Ss have iOS5, and I think all iP4s shipped with at least iOS4, however, if you're still running an original iP or an iP3G or iP3GS, you'll want to make sure you've updated to at least iOS4 if you want to utilize multiple simultaneous Bluetooth connections.

I'd upgrade anyway, because those successive iOSs just kept getting sweeter!
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Just curious, since the iPhone/Android and the radar detector are essentially "hardwired" together via the Live! power connector, why did Escort opt for Bluetooth?
The SmartCord Live connects ("hardwires") only the RD to the cigarette lighter/power outlet, not to the phone. Bluetooth is how the phone communicates with the Smartcord/RD.
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It also appears that virgin mobile does not allow data and voice at the same time (on sprints network)
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The SmartCord Live connects ("hardwires") only the RD to the cigarette lighter/power outlet, not to the phone. Bluetooth is how the phone communicates with the Smartcord/RD.
I still am not sure how the Bluetooth connection with the I Phone and the Smartcord and the Bluetooth connection with the car for voice phone use will both work together?

I think that someone said that Verizon limits the Bluetooth to one connection?

I am not concerned about the data connection, that will restore after the call.
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Old December 4th, 2011
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Verizon limits you to either a data connection or voice connection.
i.e. you can't be in a phone call and surf the web on your phone at the same time.

It has NOTHING to do with Bluetooth. That would be a limitation of your phone if it can't connect to two devices at once. NOT your carrier.

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I am not an Iphone user, but I couldn't imagine the Iphone not allowing you to connect to two devices via bluetooth....

The data connection will reconnect after you are off the phone.
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Verizon limits you to either a data connection or voice connection.
i.e. you can't be in a phone call and surf the web on your phone at the same time.

It has NOTHING to do with Bluetooth. That would be a limitation of your phone if it can't connect to two devices at once. NOT your carrier.

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I am not an Iphone user, but I couldn't imagine the Iphone not allowing you to connect to two devices via bluetooth....

The data connection will reconnect after you are off the phone.
Yes the data will reconnect, but can the I Phone have two simultaneous Bluetooth connections?
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Yes the data will reconnect, but can the I Phone have two simultaneous Bluetooth connections?
Yes the iPhone supports multiple Bluetooth connections. The app using Bluetooth has to be in the foreground to keep the connection,.
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