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Old March 13th, 2013
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I have gotten false laser alerts due to a loose fit of the 12 volt cord in the socket, as a matter of fact my 9500 was doing it yesterday because I grabbed an adapter, or splitter to take on the road with me and it wasn't made quite right to fit in there snug.. I looked on the adapter, and it said Made in China.

Well done! I got a satisfactory chuckle out of that one.
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First, how old is your detector?

Next, if you can, continue to try on a couple of other vehicles.

If it is the detector that's at fault, returning it to Escort for a repair will be not only the best way to go, but, IMveryHO, the only way to go.

However, if it is determined that this problem is one that can be traced to your vehicles, try the remedies in the following RadarDetector.net thread, by armscrafter1 -

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...er-alerts.html

You've already started attacking this problem in the proper way - trying to rule out your hardwire first, and then your vehicle, second. Continue to attack the easy-to-do steps first, to troubleshoot "incrementally."

Best of luck!

be careful! Moving it from vehicle to vehicle for testing can amount to abuse and therefore it's all your own fault.

I did see an Escort expert state that capacitors can go out and need replacement after some time. So, who is Escort sourcing their capacitors from? And if their supplier is that poor, why haven't they switched?

I'm no electrical expert, however I have replaced capacitors on printed circuit boards, automobile PCMs, ABS Sensors among other things....after many many years they were in service.

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i'll boil it down for you all. Instead of having a dirty 12v power source (which makes no sense at all as to causing a false laser detection), take a look at my recent post about multiple repairs.

It's very popular to blame something vague like a 'dirty power source', as it's not easy to verify and can divert attention from the real issue.
It's actually quite easy to verify. If your laser detector alerts with vehicle acceleration then it's a dirty power supply. Ignition noise is making it's way to the detector. Power it directly off of a 12V battery (like a portable jump starter) and it will stop. It's not a conspiracy I promise you. A laser detector uses an extremely high gain amplifier which is sensitive to electrical noise. There are noise filters in the laser detection circuit but too much filtering will also reduce laser sensitivity. I am sure that we have previously detuned the laser detector in your Passport some already and will probably detune it more due to the regular issues you are having with a noisy power supply. Hardwiring it to a less noisy power source would probably be a better solution for you depending on the vehicle.

There is nothing inherently wrong with the components that we use but they all have a lifespan, especially liquid filled capacitors. Leaving your detector on the windshield on hot summer days will certainly impact their lifespan.
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It's actually quite easy to verify. If your laser detector alerts with vehicle acceleration then it's a dirty power supply. Ignition noise is making it's way to the detector. Power it directly off of a 12V battery (like a portable jump starter) and it will stop. It's not a conspiracy I promise you. A laser detector uses an extremely high gain amplifier which is sensitive to electrical noise. There are noise filters in the laser detection circuit but too much filtering will also reduce laser sensitivity. I am sure that we have previously detuned the laser detector in your Passport some already and will probably detune it more due to the regular issues you are having with a noisy power supply. Hardwiring it to a less noisy power source would probably be a better solution for you depending on the vehicle.

There is nothing inherently wrong with the components that we use but they all have a lifespan, especially liquid filled capacitors. Leaving your detector on the windshield on hot summer days will certainly impact their lifespan.
thanks for the explanation. That helps a bit. However, the unit has been hardwired since day 1. A reliable family member is a 20 year veteran with vehicle electronics installed it. I did question his ability at one point and double checked his work. I had some questions, but he soon showed how he executed the install by the book. In addition, I am quite anal. My wife can tell you how it is living with a quality assurance analyst. I live qa at home and work.

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Here is an informative post in our installed systems section of the forum explaining how to isolate the cause and resolve laser falsing. The same can apply for you. We will detune the laser sensitivity of your windshield mounted detector if you continually complain about laser falsing with acceleration. This will negatively impact laser detection (which many are alright with because laser detection alone is rarely useful).

I previously mentioned a portable 12V battery simply to isolate the cause, not to use all of the time with your detector.
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Here is an informative post in our installed systems section of the forum explaining how to isolate the cause and resolve laser falsing. The same can apply for you. We will detune the laser sensitivity of your windshield mounted detector if you continually complain about laser falsing with acceleration. This will negatively impact laser detection (which many are alright with because laser detection alone is rarely useful).

I previously mentioned a portable 12V battery simply to isolate the cause, not to use all of the time with your detector.

I'll give it a whirl. But I would expect the laser falsing to be consistent. However, it happens about a year after each of the last two repairs.
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It is strange that it keeps re-occuring at about one year. I wonder if the noise filter is being overtaxed and eventually goes out. Do you leave it on the windshield in your car in the heat all the time?
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It is strange that it keeps re-occuring at about one year. I wonder if the noise filter is being overtaxed and eventually goes out. Do you leave it on the windshield in your car in the heat all the time?
The unit does spend the majority of the time on the windshield. However, I do have covered parking at work, park in the shade whenever and however possible. My wife has the 9500xi, and it has had no such issues.
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kjohnson1,
Please send me a private message with your name and address. I would like to personally handle the service of your X50.
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