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Old May 10th, 2018
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Default Over Hyped Max to a 9500 ix

I bought a PassPort Max a few years back when they were first available. It like many others had (and still does) a very dim display. I traded in an 8500 x50 silver model for it. I fell for all the hype about the Max, better range, fewer falses and a much better display that would even allow you to match it's colors to your IP (oh wow). Right now the display is unusable in daylight and pretty much been that way since new, many on this forum questioned why the display can't be changed to white like it does when you are in the preferences mode, no answer on that. K band like X band is totally useless so itís turned off, luckily here in Calif Ka band is all you need to monitor. It works well enough for that. So why am I posting this rant on the 9500ix forum? It's because I just bought a slightly used one on eBay ($230) and I love the thing. Wow you can see the display in daylight, it detects the Ka band operated speed sign I frequently travel by at exactly the same spot as the Max and my old 8500 for that matter. Also the ergonomics on the Max are beyond terrible, finding the button you need to push (when mounted on a blendmount thatís attached to you rear view mirror) is really difficult. On the 9500 the buttons are much easier to locate and operate. Has anybody else on here gone back to the 9500ix after owning a PassPort Max.


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I bought a PassPort Max a few years back when they were first available. It like many others had (and still does) a very dim display. I traded in an 8500 x50 silver model for it. I fell for all the hype about the Max, better range, fewer falses and a much better display that would even allow you to match it's colors to your IP (oh wow). Right now the display is unusable in daylight and pretty much been that way since new, many on this forum questioned why the display can't be changed to white like it does when you are in the preferences mode, no answer on that. K band like X band is totally useless so itís turned off, luckily here in Calif Ka band is all you need to monitor. It works well enough for that. So why am I posting this rant on the 9500ix forum? It's because I just bought a slightly used one on eBay ($230) and I love the thing. Wow you can see the display in daylight, it detects the Ka band operated speed sign I frequently travel by at exactly the same spot as the Max and my old 8500 for that matter. Also the ergonomics on the Max are beyond terrible, finding the button you need to push (when mounted on a blendmount thatís attached to you rear view mirror) is really difficult. On the 9500 the buttons are much easier to locate and operate. Has anybody else on here gone back to the 9500ix after owning a PassPort Max.
I would never go back to the 9500ix after using any of my Maxes. The BSM falsing was awful on the 9500ix, whereby it's virtually non-existent on the Maxes. The range is better with the Maxes, too.

Have you considered contacting Escort to have the OLED display checked/replaced?
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I like many others did send it back to repair the locking button issue. The service was great however they never did fix it. I use a blendmount that solves the issue of the Max flying off the cheesy mount they include with the $550 Max. Many, on this forum complained about the display at the time. There have been times when I have been amazed at how the Max picked up a signal and mine does signifcantly seem to do better at picking up signals from the back of the car. The only real way to test the sensitivity is in a lab environment and there it probably does best the 9500. Out in the real world there are so many variables it's almost impossible to measure. There have been times when I have been surprised by how my old 8500 picked up a signal also.
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I bought a PassPort Max a few years back when they were first available. It like many others had (and still does) a very dim display. I traded in an 8500 x50 silver model for it. I fell for all the hype about the Max, better range, fewer falses and a much better display that would even allow you to match it's colors to your IP (oh wow). Right now the display is unusable in daylight and pretty much been that way since new, many on this forum questioned why the display can't be changed to white like it does when you are in the preferences mode, no answer on that. K band like X band is totally useless so itís turned off, luckily here in Calif Ka band is all you need to monitor. It works well enough for that. So why am I posting this rant on the 9500ix forum? It's because I just bought a slightly used one on eBay ($230) and I love the thing. Wow you can see the display in daylight, it detects the Ka band operated speed sign I frequently travel by at exactly the same spot as the Max and my old 8500 for that matter. Also the ergonomics on the Max are beyond terrible, finding the button you need to push (when mounted on a blendmount thatís attached to you rear view mirror) is really difficult. On the 9500 the buttons are much easier to locate and operate. Has anybody else on here gone back to the 9500ix after owning a PassPort Max.


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I, too, was taken in by all the hullabaloo regarding the superior "IVT" filtering. Had numerous people in this and "other places" ask me how I could stand the 9500ix with all the in vehicle technology on the road. I honestly didn't think my 9500ix was all that bad but decided to upgrade anyway.

I wanted to stick with Escort's products because I live in Maryland and need a good camera database and laser detection. I ruled out the MAX360 due to the lockup issue. And the MAX people have been frustrated waiting two years for their IVT update, so I figure the filtering couldn't be all that great on those units given the unhappy users. Several people stated that the Redline EX filtering was very good, so I decided to give one a try.

I did a lot of driving those first few days to lock out all the stationary falses in my area and then guess what? Surprise!!!! The filtering of the Redline EX was absolutely no better than my 9500ix. I used the Redline EX for a month before returning it, and my gut feeling is that the 9500ix is just as good if not better than the EX, so if that is very good filtering, my 9500ix is either very good or excellent.

There were other issues with the Redline EX that prompted me to return it. First, my phone caused X-band interference, so I had to turn X-band off which presented a problem since I often travel to Ohio and sometimes New Jersey where X-band is still used. Then there were the laser falses, way too many. My 9500ix only very rarely falses. And when I first got the EX, I had no problem finding laser-activated cameras in my area to test the EX against my 9500ix. I easily determined that the laser detection on both units was identical, within a car length each run.

For those who think laser detection in a radar detector is not important, I had two saves in one day on the notorious Indian Head Highway (Google for info on this road) thanks to the stepped up enforcement. That brought my verified total year to date to six. Another false motherhood [laser detections are just ticket notifiers] debunked. If you are not getting laser scatter saves, you either are not getting shot by laser, using the wrong detector, or maybe the Maryland LEOs are just extra shaky when pointing the laser gun.

It was still 50/50 that last day deciding whether to return the Redline EX. I had a number of K-band and Ka alerts during my trial period, some very good, but nothing that I had not already seen with my 9500ix. Could supposedly better K and Ka detection range justify keeping the EX?

While I was debating the issue, I just happened to be using my 9500ix driving north along Indian Head Highway out of Indian Head when I got a K-band alert. There were no cars or buildings around me so I immediate figured it was the real thing. As it ramped up and I continued north, I knew there was a big dip in the road ahead and would probably lose the signal, but that did not happen. And coming out of the dip I got a full blast alert. There it was, a Charles County sheriff's car. My measured distance was 0.7 miles, so if he was traveling at my speed, this was a 1.4 mile detection. Didn't get anything like that during my month with the EX. I took this as a sign that I should return the EX which I did.

If the 9500ix is a bad as some people try to make out, then how come Escort decided to resume selling it? There must be a huge demand, and that comes from satisfied customers like me. You made the comment that Ka detection range of your 9500ix was on a par with your MAX. If you do some Google searching, you will find several independent test results showing that the 9500ix not only hung in there but actually beat out the MAX360 on select Ka band testing. As far as I am concerned, Escort peaked out with the 9500ix. It has just the right amount of sensitivity to give good detection range on all bands without being overly sensitive to IVT falses, excellent laser detection and camera database.

Glad you also like your 9500ix.
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I, too, was taken in by all the hullabaloo regarding the superior "IVT" filtering. Had numerous people in this and "other places" ask me how I could stand the 9500ix with all the in vehicle technology on the road. I honestly didn't think my 9500ix was all that bad but decided to upgrade anyway.



I wanted to stick with Escort's products because I live in Maryland and need a good camera database and laser detection. I ruled out the MAX360 due to the lockup issue. And the MAX people have been frustrated waiting two years for their IVT update, so I figure the filtering couldn't be all that great on those units given the unhappy users. Several people stated that the Redline EX filtering was very good, so I decided to give one a try.



I did a lot of driving those first few days to lock out all the stationary falses in my area and then guess what? Surprise!!!! The filtering of the Redline EX was absolutely no better than my 9500ix. I used the Redline EX for a month before returning it, and my gut feeling is that the 9500ix is just as good if not better than the EX, so if that is very good filtering, my 9500ix is either very good or excellent.



There were other issues with the Redline EX that prompted me to return it. First, my phone caused X-band interference, so I had to turn X-band off which presented a problem since I often travel to Ohio and sometimes New Jersey where X-band is still used. Then there were the laser falses, way too many. My 9500ix only very rarely falses. And when I first got the EX, I had no problem finding laser-activated cameras in my area to test the EX against my 9500ix. I easily determined that the laser detection on both units was identical, within a car length each run.



For those who think laser detection in a radar detector is not important, I had two saves in one day on the notorious Indian Head Highway (Google for info on this road) thanks to the stepped up enforcement. That brought my verified total year to date to six. Another false motherhood [laser detections are just ticket notifiers] debunked. If you are not getting laser scatter saves, you either are not getting shot by laser, using the wrong detector, or maybe the Maryland LEOs are just extra shaky when pointing the laser gun.



It was still 50/50 that last day deciding whether to return the Redline EX. I had a number of K-band and Ka alerts during my trial period, some very good, but nothing that I had not already seen with my 9500ix. Could supposedly better K and Ka detection range justify keeping the EX?



While I was debating the issue, I just happened to be using my 9500ix driving north along Indian Head Highway out of Indian Head when I got a K-band alert. There were no cars or buildings around me so I immediate figured it was the real thing. As it ramped up and I continued north, I knew there was a big dip in the road ahead and would probably lose the signal, but that did not happen. And coming out of the dip I got a full blast alert. There it was, a Charles County sheriff's car. My measured distance was 0.7 miles, so if he was traveling at my speed, this was a 1.4 mile detection. Didn't get anything like that during my month with the EX. I took this as a sign that I should return the EX which I did.



If the 9500ix is a bad as some people try to make out, then how come Escort decided to resume selling it? There must be a huge demand, and that comes from satisfied customers like me. You made the comment that Ka detection range of your 9500ix was on a par with your MAX. If you do some Google searching, you will find several independent test results showing that the 9500ix not only hung in there but actually beat out the MAX360 on select Ka band testing. As far as I am concerned, Escort peaked out with the 9500ix. It has just the right amount of sensitivity to give good detection range on all bands without being overly sensitive to IVT falses, excellent laser detection and camera database.



Glad you also like your 9500ix.


Wow! Thank you for your long reply, I enjoyed reading it. I live in Ca. where the Ka band is used almost exclusively. My Max had so many K band hits that I turned that band and X band off a long time ago. The Max seems to do really well with the Ka band, but then I thought the same about my old 8500x50. My major disappointment with the Max is the display and Escorts response to it. In reality I don't really need it, the audio alerts work well. I haven't used the 9500ix very much yet other than to test it on that sign I mentioned. It will be used in our traveling car, we go over to Nevada once a month. The Max will used in my daily driver, a Miata. I'm retired so no long commute to work. Before retiring I wrote and conducted Operational Testing & Evaluation procedures for the Air Force here at Vandenberg AFB. I can tell you that the Max would never have made it out the door if I were doing the same for Escort. I bought my first Escort after getting a ticket for speeding. I wasnít paying attention and it was a bit of a trap. I use these devices to better inform me, situational awareness i think it's called. As I said Iím retired so Iím in no hurry to go anywhere, just try to keep up with the traffic, going with the flow as they say. Thanks again for your response and Iím sure I will enjoy my 9500ix.
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