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Old February 17th, 2017
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Now that's quite a claim.

Several times I have been alerted to guns that were well outside of Ka segments 2,5,8 on a RedLine. I was not using a segmented detector at the time so I was alerted to them. If I had been using a Redline with only Ka segments 2,5,8 on, and was speeding then I would have received tickets in each instance.

If we had as much faith in police keeping their equipment calibrated properly as BelsCortFan does, then we would ship RedLine with RDR off and only Ka segments 2,5,8 enabled. We do not though.
Well, I have to bite--What segs would YOU enable, if you were running a Redline??
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Well, I have to bite--What segs would YOU enable, if you were running a Redline??
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When I use Redline I turn on Ka superwide and enable RDR, the factory default settings. I've never noticed poor detection with a RedLine using factory default settings.
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Old February 28th, 2017
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You should be 100% safe running 2/5/6/8 thats all you need-----There are TONS of people running just this with no problems!!
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Long time lurker, long time Escort user, (replaced silver x50)-1st post.
Please bear with me, I just bought (new) Redline from authorized dealer--must say I was a bit rough on opening product?? so if it has to go back maybe a bit touchy!??
OK, here is what's going on--we are (ate up) with the leo's in this area--SW New Mexico, we live 30 miles to town, a lot of mountains, we have to ride the brakes going down hill, as there could be a (trap) at the bottom, that said, I, 1st tried the ks bands (seged) with 3,5,8--and in town (all) the leo's have radar on--or so it would seem with the older 8500x50--
Now I do NOT think that all the (no hits) are a fluke?? (them not running Radar)--could be? but I have had some positive hits--So after 1st day turned on all segs, except (1) still acts like NOT picking up all ka--
Has anybody run into a faulty RD out of the box??--hate to send in, but do not to run out of time.
Sorry so long winded.
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Has anyone NOT noticed that he had the wrong segs enabled. It should be 2/5/8/ ON, NOT 3/5/8/ as he listed. Having seg 2 OFF means that his unit was not alerting to MPH 33.8 units.

The proper settings for Ka should be as follows:

2/5/8 ON ( to get there, turn Ka SW OFF and it takes you again into segments)

# 2 gives you 33.8,(MPH) # 5 Stalker 34.7 and # 8 gives 35.5 (Kustom Decatur)

RDR OFF
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When I use Redline I turn on Ka superwide and enable RDR, the factory default settings. I've never noticed poor detection with a RedLine using factory default settings.
You won't get poor detection, you'll just have sleeping beauty on quicker shots. The elemental key is to do 2/5/8/ ON, RDR OFF and you're golden for perhaps the best WS mount ever made!!
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You should be 100% safe running 2/5/6/8 thats all you need-----There are TONS of people running just this with no problems!!
2/5/8/ is more than sufficient...................
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You won't get poor detection, you'll just have sleeping beauty on quicker shots. The elemental key is to do 2/5/8/ ON, RDR OFF and you're golden for perhaps the best WS mount ever made!!
I'm SO sorry---that was a miss print--Idid have 2,5,6,8--RDR OFF--it was my bad!
I sent the RD back---
I have decided to go with the RPSE-(Radenso) -with FW #18---sorry Escort--I did not want to deal with the K alerts in town.
Thanks to everyone for your imput.
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You won't get poor detection, you'll just have sleeping beauty on quicker shots. The elemental key is to do 2/5/8/ ON, RDR OFF and you're golden for perhaps the best WS mount ever made!!
I know exactly what these features do, we make them Turning off RDR is the key, not segmenting. Segmenting just reduces some of the extra falsing from turning off RDR. I just don't need them. A factory default RedLine has always been more than sufficient for me and I have seen out of tune Ka guns (because I wasn't using segmenting!).

If you need to detect quick shots and want great filtering all while detecting everything, then a Max is the only way to go.
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Now that's quite a claim.

Several times I have been alerted to guns that were well outside of Ka segments 2,5,8 on a RedLine. I was not using a segmented detector at the time so I was alerted to them. If I had been using a Redline with only Ka segments 2,5,8 on, and was speeding then I would have received tickets in each instance.

If we had as much faith in police keeping their equipment calibrated properly as BelsCortFan does, then we would ship RedLine with RDR off and only Ka segments 2,5,8 enabled. We do not though.
With all due respect, show me ONE (1) Person on any forum where they have gotten a ticket from an out of tune gun?? I want to see the citation. If the guns that out of tune that a segged ER products is NOT picking it up, then its not FCC certified for LEO use nor is is legal.

In light of that, are you saying, with all due respect, that the standard Redline performs as well as a BSRDR unit that is running 2/5/8 ON and RDR OFF?? IF that's the case, then I'd love to see THOSE test results as well. I've been running segged units since ER starting segging them about 10 years ago with the original Stir-O and later the Stir Plus, 9500 ci and the Redline. Since its been 4 years this month since we've gotten BSRDR for the Redline, I have yet to see one test where a "standard" Redline has done as well or better than a segged unit.
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I know exactly what these features do, we make them Turning off RDR is the key, not segmenting. Segmenting just reduces some of the extra falsing from turning off RDR. I just don't need them. A factory default RedLine has always been more than sufficient for me and I have seen out of tune Ka guns (because I wasn't using segmenting!).

If you need to detect quick shots and want great filtering all while detecting everything, then a Max is the only way to go.
@Nine_c1 has done tests showing that the more segs you run, the less quick or reactive the Redline is. I do agree that RDR, as it is for the RX65 S7, is where the magic seems to rest in the M3 series.

Question: Why run more segs than you have to??? Running just 2/5/8/ also cuts down on the falsing from Cobras (ah hem) and other leaky units out there. Particularly on 33.8 false Ka alerts. That third harmonic is the false maker.

IF you want great (killer range) , awesome sensitivity and few if any Ka falses, than the Redline BSRDR is the way to go. Heck, even CP is selling the Redline pre-segged as the Redline XR and charges $100 bucks for it. Something ER or I can do for free.

What I don't understand is why ER wont acknowledge that the Redline BSRDR is STILL their most sensitive, best range , on and off axis detector, despite its propensity to false on K band?? Not a single test has ever seen the Max nor the Max360 beat a Redline? Not one.
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